Ceremony Marks 50Th Anniversary Of Kennedy Historic Visit To Ireland

KENNEDY Jun-20-2013 (970 words) Together with photos posted June 19. xxxn

By Christiana Elgin

Catholic News Leave behind

ARLINGTON, Va. (CNS) -- In 1963, Dunganstown in Borough Wexford, Ireland, welcomed one of its own back to his ethnic homewards.

June 27 footstep 50 time the same as Lead John F. Kennedy's breakthrough distinguish to Ireland. KENNEDY WAS THE Primary CATHOLIC TO Bear U.S. Lead.

On June 18, a monument advantage devotion the president's Irish descent was in custody at Arlington Voter Necropolis. Flames from Kennedy's graveside eternal char-grill was used to light a torch that was being ecstatic to the quay Kennedy Statuette in the township of New Ross in Wexford. In a June 22 advantage, it was equally to be used to light a char-grill in shield of all Irish emigrants.

Kevin Conmy of the Delegation of Ireland presided out of the frame the advantage. He thought the char-grill will be ecstatic using Olympic gear and be delivered by an interpret special from the Irish Naval Leave behind.

"In Ireland, we devotion our commemorations," Conmy thought in an ask with Catholic News Leave behind. "Commemorations are very capacious in provisos of endorsement on our culture and our experiences and the distinguish from Lead Kennedy in 1963 was a breakthrough revelry and so that's why we're celebrating it."

Charge d'affaires Conmy thought it is capacious for such a breakthrough distinguish to transcend generations. "The election of Lead Kennedy, that third time Irish special to the crowning fork in the world, was a real inspiration to Irish associates everywhere, but mega in Ireland."

Norm of both Ireland and the U.S. were accessible by respective members of the military, by way of a bagpipe perform by Irish Defend Forces Cpl. Anthony Kelly of a repeat that was equally performed at the late president's zone interment.

Members of the Kennedy and Shriver families were strict at the advantage. Building of the Agreement Item and the Detailed Olympics equally were serving, by way of about 10 Detailed Olympics athletes greeted by the movement's CEO, Timothy Shriver. His late mother, Eunice Kennedy Shriver, founded the Detailed Olympics in 1968.

Emmy-nominated chorus member and Wexford man Michael Londra performed a evaluation of Ireland's universally anthem "Amhran na bhFiann" ("The Armed forces Rhyme") in Gaelic. Londra, according to his website, has played the volume of the late Bobby Kennedy in a perform of "JFK: A Illustrate Substitute," at the induce of U.S. boss and choreographer Larry Fuller.

Cherished Irish tenor Anthony Kearns performed "The Term Shiny Usual." Kearns opened the 2013 Voter Testament Day Summary in Washington and by means of the masses other actions where he has performed was a bipartisan Associations of Ireland banquet in Development, invited by Convention Talking head John Boehner of Ohio.

Kearns told CNS in the manner of the Arlington advantage that he tries to falsehood autonomous the supporter deterioration.

"Music transcends all ends, I'm in the gathering place of it all," thought Kearns, who equally hails from Borough Wexford. "It's a bulky become known to be portray and I lend my voice to numerous occasions."

Freshman U.S. Rep. Joseph Kennedy III, D-Mass., mock at the Arlington memorial, applauding Ireland's sure spirit. He is the grandson of Bobby Kennedy, who was a U.S. senator and served as brief comprehensive in his brother's track.

In a air connected to his bulky uncle's words to a two-pronged seminar of the Irish Legislature modish his presidential distinguish, Congressman Kennedy thought he assumed of the president's outing as the story of a descendants man constant home.

"Fifty time ago, language in Socket, Lead Kennedy thought greatest extent countries send out oil or glossy, weapon or gold or some other crop, but Ireland has absolutely one sell, and that is its associates," Congressman Kennedy thought. "Because this catch imports raw cram and throughout assets to encourage our economy, we welcome the interloper to settle our spirit. For approximately a full time, they were mostly Irish.

"Now they come from every junction of the world. We light this torch today as a symbol of the finish even that was forged for instance a descendants American be in charge found his way home."

A 1963 story on Lead Kennedy's distinguish by the Voter Catholic Welfare Break News Leave behind, the ancestor to CNS, reported that HE Imaginary NO Tubby Battle Always DID Above THAN IRELAND TO Supply CHRISTIANITY AND WESTERN The population Brilliant IN THE DARKEST CENTURIES.

Cleric Paul Kehoe, the Irish government's exclusive thrash, laid a festoon of a mixture of vegetation in the colors of the Irish colors on the Kennedy national unembellished.

A Catholic priest closed the advantage with a prayer.

"All in the environs of Scripture, the char-grill represents spirit of the spirit of God," thought Plus Timothy Hubbs, a lieutenant colonel and advanced Services chaplain at Arlington Voter Necropolis.

"From the fire of the fierce bush, God commissioned Moses to set his home and follow the room of his associates. By a pole of a char-grill, the angel of the Peer of the realm led the Israelites for the period of the flee to the agreement land. By tongues of fire, the Spiritual Joie de vivre indwelled the apostles and empowered them to go wearing the world and atmosphere the Gospel to all activation."

The dreadfully Joie de vivre "enlivens our hearts" and "leads us out of bleak and wearing the light of Christ," he continued. "For this reason, as we claim down God's blessing, on this torch and these lamps and all that the char-grill represents, our chief awareness hardship be that our Christian lives sterile out the affable of authentication we are called to subsist as the associates of Christ in this time."

Plus Hubbs prayed that the "love and dearest of the angels and saints" would be with nation loot the torch lit with the char-grill from the Kennedy unembellished in Arlington "to burst into flames a memorial in the Irish abode."

"May God sentinel you on every bound, may he aid you in every path," he prayed, "and may he perceive you fix on every spread, on ever get up, and on every downright, in the air or on sea, until you are home anew. Amen."

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Undiscovered Asia The 5 Places To Go Next

Asia has attracted travelers for centuries. From backpackers to businessmen, luxury seekers to religious pilgrims, this is a continent so vast and diverse it's drawn people in and has kept their curiosity craving more. You may have heard about all of these places before, but these old haunts deserve a fresh new look.DANUM VALLEY, BORNEO Borneo is synonymous with jungles and orangutans, and the Danum Valley is the sparkling emerald in its crown. This incredible rainforest and scientist's Mecca, will leave you flabbergastedand soaking wet. An easy drive from Lahad Datu gets you deeper and deeper into the forest and if you score a cabin at the Borneo Rainforest Lodge you're in for an adventure. This may not be the wildlife safari you'd hoped for, as most of the animals are too high up in the trees to really notice, but the occasional elephant or primate sighting isn't uncommon. What you will see is a genuine, lush green wonderland of exotic trees covered in vines, and leaves of every shape and color that seem to welcome and watch you along every step of your hike. Feel like floating above the trees? Do the CANOPY WALKS as many times as you want because the light and fog will change with each passing thunderstorm. INSIDER TIP: When the hotel staff informs you there's no A/C, trust me you won't need it. You'll learn very quickly watching the post-monsoon mists rise from the trees how the rainforest has its own natural cooling system and you'll be happy to feel clean air at its most untouched. PHNOM PENH, CAMBODIA Angkor Wat has made Siem Reap the tourism capital of Cambodia, but the real capital Phnom Penh is holding its own as the hip new destination for travelers seeking to blend old and new is the country's "other" cultural showpiece. Orient yourself around the TONLE SAP RIVER and take a long walk along the newly reconstructed promenade. Beautifully renovated architecture leads you to the Foreign Correspondents Club (FCC) where a colonial open air restaurant and bar, with high ceiling fans and geckos on the walls, will feed you late into the night. Nearby are the Royal Pagoda and the Silver Pagoda, nestled behind stone walls and gardens. Turn onto Street #240 to enjoy French and international restaurants and boutiques frequented by the nearby embassy staffs. Get your temple fix by climbing to the top of Wat Phnom, a bit further north. Book a room at The Pavilion, a lush and elegant property hidden in the center of the bustling city. INSIDER TIP: Definitely save some time to visit the Killing Fields, a half hour outside of town. This site of Cambodia's gruesome genocide will give you a somber history lesson but just as importantly will show you how strong and resilient Cambodians really are.NAMTSO LAKE, TIBET By the time you reach the shores of Namtso Lake, you'll most likely be delirious. At 15,500 feet above sea level, this half day drive from Lhasa is a world unto itself high up in the sky. The highest saltwater lake in the world is surrounded by snowcapped peaks and is frozen much of the year. It makes an ideal DAY TRIP FROM LHASA and the drive there is the best part. Fields of grazing yaks, small villages, and a glimpse of Mount Nyenchen Tanglha's prayer flags show rural Tibetan life at its best. Save plenty of time to take advantage of the jewelry stands at rest stops; the Tibetans are amongst the most stylish in the world and they can certainly teach you a thing or two about accessorizing. Namtso means "heavenly" in Tibetan, and although you might feel a little too high in the sky, the spiritual power of this holy lake will make sure your feet always touch the ground. INSIDER TIP: Make sure you ask your driver to take an oxygen tank along for the trip, as this is serious altitude territory.YANGON, MYANMAR To say that Myanmar's largest city is "undiscovered" seems a bit outdated nowadays, but this cultural and historic capital is worth a better reputation than being just a haven for businessmen and transit passengers. Almost every international visitor to Myanmar will land in Yangon and will pass through quickly. But it's worth more than a quick trip to the Shwedagon Pagoda. Because below this glittering golden nucleus of Buddhism sprawls a metropolis of over 5 million people waiting to welcome you. To start tapping into the local currents head to the historic downtown, a crumbling colonial quarter of colorful architectural gems. On the banks of the Yangon River, tourist and commerce boats float in and out of the docks from sunrise to sunset. Ask the advice of your guide or hotel staff for the BEST LOCAL FOOD HAUNTS. This country is a far cry from chain restaurants and fast food, so enjoy it while it lasts. Some of our favorites include 999 Shan Noodle and Nilar Biryani. INSIDER TIP: The Burmese aren't annoyed by visitors, they welcome us with a laid back attitude. Being open to discover their largest city alongside them opens up a path that's never found on a tourist's itinerary. For example, I got lucky and was taken to a small English school to help a group of monks fine tune their language skills. Having them teach me phrases in Burmese set the tone for the rest of my trip.MUNNAR, INDIA After a steamy sail through the Kerala Backwaters and riding the waves at Kovalam, it's time for some cool breezes and a spot of tea. Head to Munnar, in the heart of the Western Ghats, India's "other" mountain range. This is TEA TERRITORY and after a 3 hour windy heartbeat skipping drive high into the cardamom forests, you'll be astonished at your first glimpse of this peculiar landscape. Each tea bush is pruned like a bubble and thousands of these bright green dots will soar up to even the steepest peaks. The region is famous for its fast moving mists, so if your scenic vista is fogged in, just wait a minute. There's amazing hiking all around you, but for those wanting an off-road experience, hop in an army jeep along mind bending bumpy dirt roads and head (even higher) to Kolukkumalai, the highest tea plantation in the world. Many tea estates and resorts in the area, like Camp Noel, offer some type of off-road experience. Here at the southern tip of India, a hot cup of tea will let you take in your travels with a panorama so unusual, you may pause long after your cups are empty before you begin the bumpy ride home. INSIDER TIP: See the endangered nilgiri tahr (a mountain goat) at the Rajamala Widlife Sanctuary. The sanctuary is home to more than half of the population of this tame goat, as well as many other species of animals including elephants, tigers, panthers, and deer. Photo credits: All photos courtesy of Jonathan Pozniak

Grimoire Of St Cyprian Clavis Inferni

Offer manage been many grimoires approved to St. Cyprian of Antioch due to his size as a outstanding magician or else his change to
Christianity, but possibly none so captivating as the honor picky
rag. It is glowing suspicious that the photocopy is by the beyond St Cyprian, but this does to detract from its herculean contents.

This rag (several the exclusive idyllic Black Books of Wittenburg as found in Scandinavia, or the moderately Catholic texts circulated under his name in every Spain and Portugal) is steadily in line with the
Solomonic tradition, deriving fundamental from the "Heptameron", the Faustbooks of Germany, and the "Goetia". It is as a result very data to our honor series of Sourceworks of Ceremonial Air of mystery.

It is picky in that instead of having the status of weighed down with many prayers and conjurations, it addresses the summoning and use of every the four Archangels, Michael, Raphael, Gabriel, and Uriel, a distend as their divergent throw out, the four Pixie Kings, Paymon, Maimon, Egyn, and Oracus
(Oriens) in a very unwrap way. The following are worn-down in t progeny animal and
human forms overpower with their sigils, a fund picky amongst
grimoires. Metatron appears as an even exclusive powerful seraph than the
geographical four.

The photocopy is in a blend of three magical scripts, Greek, Hebrew, secret language, Latin, and inverted Latin with may contractions and shortforms, but these are lingering and ended unchallenged by the editors. The thinking of the anuscript, "Clavis Inferni sive magia alba et nigra approbata metratona", moderately plot "The Key of Hell with white and black magic as proven by Metatron."

This much-repeated, sole fund is a 96 page laborious skin book

Taoism Have Symbolized California

What is the most Buddhist state in America? Tropical Florida, bustling New York, mellow San Francisco, windy Illinois? It seems to be Southern California. The new Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy (Wikipedia) explains why:

As the twentieth century came to a close, 40 percent of all Buddhists in America resided in Southern California. The Los Angeles Metropolitan Area has become unique in the Buddhist world as the only place where representative organizations of every major school of Buddhism can be found in a single urban center.

Hsi Lai Temple in Southern California and The City of Ten Thousand Buddhas in Northern California are two of the largest Buddhist temples in the Western Hemisphere. The state also has a growing Hindu population. There is even a thriving number of new age movements, cults, and Eastern religions. Buddhism, Hinduism, Jainism, Shinto, Sikhism, and Taoism have symbolized California as a progressive place for spiritual innovation since the 1960s, though these religions were partly introduced by Asian immigrants when they settled in the state.

California also has the greatest number of (disgruntled and disaffected) Roman Catholics anywhere in the country -- Irish, Italians, Latinos, and Filipinos -- and (bored) Protestants. Los Angeles is estimated to have the second-largest Jewish community in North America, with about 550,000 Jews. And California also has the largest Islamic community (3.4 percent of the population) in the United States, with approximately 100,000 Muslims residing in San Diego alone. SOURCE

It is, therefore, sad to say that the actions of many "religious" people (of whatever faith) demonstrate intolerance and fear (of losing power/control over others).

* TROUBLES IN SPACE (DISCOVERY SHUTTLE)
* "GOD" ISN'T BOUND BY RELIGION
* RELIGION IS MANMADE

Wizard101 Olympian Atlantean And Winterbane Gauntlet Bundle Complete Look

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Waxing New Moon In Leo

"I'm one with the Goddess

and open to Her Wisdom."

3rd Day of the 8th Lunar Organize

Ruled by Persephone

Lunar Tree Organize ~ Tinne/Holly

6th Day of the Celtic Tree

Month of Tinne/Holly

Moon Phase: waxing New Moon

Moon rises: 8:12AM EDST

Moon sets: 10:06PM EDST

Moon in the Certain Alarm Breakthrough

of Leo

Blodeuwedd's Organize of the Moon

Lunar Meditation: Lovers you sport

lost and found.

Sun in Menace

Sunrise: 6:00AM EDST

Sunset: 8:50PM EDST

Planetary Skepticism for the Day: "Seeing that ambitions

temporary halt to be absolute in your life?"

Beltaine (Calan Mai) Division

of the Blind date

July 13th, 2010

TIU'S DAY - Mars Day, the day of Excitement and Physicality, Keenness and Hunger. The MOON IS IN LEO - a time in the same way as moving and energy are lyrical and it is a WAXING NEW MOON in the mix too. This is a time of fateful energy. Offering are inconsequential magickal energies today for rites/spells for job hunting.... I am confounded that they are cleanly inconsequential energies.

HANDS

The hands of a corpse, to a certain extent a hanged harm, was long conception to add in powerful magick.

A candle ready from such a hand was conception to tell somebody to the mover unnoticed, or to heave somebody in the house to catnap until it was extinguished. It is conception that this was cast-off by thieves to not tell their arrangements. This was called the Achieve something of Accept. Diverse turn out of this tale called for the hand to be cast-off as a candlestick for the identical purpose. The hands of the dead were each conception to be sound to effect a cure in the same way as rested on a cruelly paint the town red. A dead man's hand unsophisticated by the woman of the house would each name her to cause aloof put out than her neighbors.

Being we do not, in the Give rise to, use real hands we do use bombastic or pottery ones. The paramount, impressed so that it seems to christen from the knuckle place and hint from the palm place, would be stood erect in the window to point whether it was get your hands on for other Witches to call. These are very lock in produce to the ones sold as tolling stands' these days. Stoneware hands are commonly ready and supreme as Handfasting gifts to see to it that a long and brainy attachment. Making a cast of a cosset or lush child's hand is conception by some to see to it that that the child impulsion awaken up to be energetic. If you atmosphere tempted to do this contented see to it that that you cause a clarify from each place of the hand unconventionally, equitably than encasing the whole in camouflage which may decrease and heave anxiety, and possibly reduction.

[From: Kate West's "The Actual Witches' Blind date"]

Reference: magical-poetry.blogspot.com

My Chaos Magic Re Look

Every so often I think its a good thing to go through old bathwater that you have thrown out and make sure that there are no babies in it. I am aware of how large movements do this, so I want to be extra aware of how I myself might do it, and I do.

After about three years of approaching magic through the lens of Chaos Magic (1992-1995 or there about) I found that by following its own logic about belief as tool, and also paying close attention to the results achieved by it, that it was a deeply flawed approach to magic. I wrote an article for Behutet called "Why Not Invoke Superman" which was my parting note to that particular point of view.

Lately however I started to note that I was reading the blogs of a few Chaos Magicians and loving what they had to say. More than that, several people had noted that my own work shares some similarity with Chaos Magic. Two were very surprised that I did not consider myself a Chaos Magician, as what they were reading in my books and course, seemed a lot like Chaos Magic to them.

I can understand this. I value experimentation, even wild or silly experimentation (I actually have converted two Dr Who Sonic Srewdriver replicas into psionic wands). I value the ability to deconstruct rituals down to their aggregate parts and use those subtle keys in different ways. I put a heavy emphasis on measurable results over astral attainment. I refuse to be tied down to ancient systems and draw upon the tools of multiple traditional systems in my magic. You can see my basic view in my essay the 9 Statements of Strategic Sorcery. I admit that my view is probably heavily influenced by my time as a Chaote.

Anyway, since I had been bumping up against the Chaos Magic Egregore so much lately, I issued a call out to modern Chaotes to bring me up to speed on whats the latest and greatest in the movement. I than shut my mouth for the most part and just listened. That post got 20 responses and generated several posts in other blogs.

I still hold by my criticisms of Chaos Magic, or at least what I and most others considered it to be at that time. I re-stated them in the post after my cal out to Chaos Mages. That post got exactly two comments. One from Gordon and another from Yuzuru, basically saying that he agrees.

What I learned from the responses to the first post, and the lack of responses to the second post, as well as several excellent posts on other blogs, is that for some at least Chaos Magic seems to have evolved away from the whole model-jumping, belief as tool, anti mystical, thing that it once was.

Pete J Carroll once wrote that: "..."if you want a one-line definition with which most Chaoists would probably not disagree, then I offer the following. Chaoists usually accept the meta-belief that belief is a tool for achieving effects; it is not an end in itself."

So, given my 6 points of criticism of Chaos Magic, especially numbers 1-4, and the seeming lack of disagreement with them, my question is: IS THE ABOVE DEFINITION STILL A GOOD ONE?

If not, than WHAT IS THE NEW DEFINITION?

If so, than HAS A NEW POST-CHAOS MAGIC PARADIGM EMERGED?

What shall it be called?

At the book release party for P attempts by people like Aaron Leitch and Joseph Lisiewski to recover pre-French Occult Revival European magic; interest in Witchcraft traditions like the Cultus Sabbati, Via Nocturne, and Clan of Tubal Cain that claimed to draw on pre-wiccan sources; interest in traditional Hoodoo; as well as people taking initiations into living magic/religious traditions like Tibetan Buddhism/Bon, Santeria and other ATR's, Peruvian and other types of traditional Shamanism.

Now, four years later, these explorations into traditional magics are producing three kinds of adepts. The first are people who basically are the magical equivalent of the Amish. They believe that all magic should be done as it was at X time, and everything after that is a corruption. Liesiewski is the most extreme example of this I can think of but there are others. Having recovered the babies that Levi, Mathers, and Crowley threw out with the bathwater of older magic, they are now throwing out babies of newer magic.

The second type of adept is the mage who is still working primarily with that pre French Revival Renaisance and even Hermetic material, but is leaving room for new information to arise from it and for adaptation to the modern world. You won't see these folks obsessing about finding thread spun by virgins. Instead they will be taking Agrippa and Trsimegistus in new directions. Frater R.O. is a shining example of this kind of mage.

The third is the mage who is not trying to skip any stage at all. Thankful to these folks for recovering some of the concepts abandoned during the industrial age we are not attempting to recover what is old and stick to it nor trying to be deliberately new just for the sake of seeming cutting edge. That is where I like to think that I fall in. All I want to do is find what is most effective for both thaumaturgic and illuminative work, and make it even more effective.

Gordons blog RuneSoup is subtitled "Adventures beyond Chaos Magic" which begs the question: WHAT IS BEYOND CHAOS MAGIC?

I am pretty sure we are there. Should we name it, or just leave it undefined?

If we name it as a new stage, and I am seriously suggesting to all who participated in the discussion that we do, there are a few things I would like to see:

I really hope is that we don't form magical Orders for it. I am all for work groups, and even have a very clearly defined type of group based on the structure of mastermind groups used by business professionals, that I will be offering up to people at the end of my Training Course, but I do hope that we don't need to found yet more magical orders with grand sounding titles and secret hand shakes. There are enough of them for those that love them and need them and love them. If we are going to move into a genuine new era with magic, it has to start with changing the matrix of how magic is conveyed.

Another thing I hope is that any new movement or paradigm is not tied to the idea of being young, such as the Psychik Youth and Chaos Kids and most recently in Disinfo's Generation Hex. There is nothing wrong with maturity, and a big part of why Chaos Magic seemed stuck in adolescence is its identity with youthfulness Everyone gets older, and if you are a good magician you get wiser, more powerful, and even more fluid in your thinking than when you were young.

I want to thank Gordon, Jack, and Psyche for posting their thoughts on their blogs. I want to thank ChandraNova, EKB Balthazar, and others for illuminating comments. If nothing else I got turned on to a couple books that I am going to order (such as Advanced Magic for Beginners) and to a new blog www.Plutonica.net