Jacob Prasch A Vindictive Railer Are These Actions And Words Conducive Of A True Man Of God
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I had known of Jacob Prasch for many years and heard him preach many times. I had up until now excused his very brash style because I naively used to believe that he was a true man of God who preached truth and was used of God to expose false teachers and prophets.
However, in recent years it has come to my attention how Jacob is not just behaving like a bully but is also actually preaching elements of heresy SUCH AS HIS "WORK BASED" SALVATION (ARMINIAN) THEOLOGY, HIS PARTIAL RAPTURE FOR ONLY "WORTHY" BELIEVERS (AGAIN "WORK BASED") AND HIS EXTRA BIBLICAL (ENOCH) TEACHINGS ON THE NEPHILIM (HTTP://WWW.MORIEL.ORG/TEACHING/ONLINE/FUTURE HISTORY OF THE CHURCH/PART 3-04 NEPHILIM.HTML SEE THE BOTTOM OF THIS ARTICLE FOR THE SCREENSHOT IMAGE OF THAT PAGE ESPECIALLY READ THE PART WHERE JACOB ADDS TO THE BIBLE).
more specifically HOW HIS "BEHAVIOUR IS GETTING WORSE AND WORSE". IT IS TIME for true believers to stand up and say with a big collective voice "ENOUGH already!".
Jacob you are bringing the Christian message into disrepute by your disgraceful rants. Repent and humble yourself under the mighty hand of God.
The following things written by Jacob (below) are groundless accusations against Deborah. She hosts a blog which I USED to contribute to * (see notes at the very bottom in blue).
She has presented accuracy with very clear documentary evidence of the things she writes.
Of course she may have (occasionally) used some of her own conclusions, but Jacob's attack is simply because he has been found out and is reacting (over reacting). I have checked out (for myself) what Deborah has written. Much of what she says is definite evidence and been argued rationally, mostly fairly and scripturally. Certainly it is nonsense for Jacob to accuse her of those things below.
Below is what Jacob has written. ARE THESE THE WORDS OF A MAN OF GOD? Especially notice what he said in red/bold writing.
"The invented out "and out lie by "Deborah" that I call such brethren heretics in the book or elsewhere is a vicious and demonstrable lie obviolly embraced by HER LUNATIC FOLLOWERS such as "Redeemed" etc. Sherry B. rather statss vicious things. ONE OF THESE RELIGIOUS FRUITCAKES "calls those "not in agreeement with pre trib, "Ministers of Satan". The point is that it is fully documented that Deborah is lied and spread slander. We are warned such people would come in the last days by Paul in 2 Tim. 3:3 where the term for SUCH LIARS as Deborah is "diaboloi" or DEMONIC PEOPLE. Plainly, anyone who tells such obvious lies aimed to misrepresent the truth to others with an intent to defame IS DEMONIC. The Word of God, not Jacob Prasch, CALLS DEBORAH 'DEMONIC'. "
"Redeemed and the Mawany etc. who believe her on face value without examining the facts themselves which prove she lied are in violation of The Word of God themselves (John 7:51). I will not comment on William Saunders because I know him to be a deceiver who secretly tape records conversations with an aim to distortion abd entrapment and SUCH A LOW LIFE is NOT WORTH THE TIME OF DAY."
"Deborah however DELIGHTS IN LYING. Another of her lies is that I am anti KJV. The article and recording I did in the public domain entitled "the Plastic Bible" only has me expressing hatred fir 'The Message', inclusivist translations, and the 2012 gender inclusive edition of the NIV. The KJV however is endorsed in that transcript and on that recording as a valid translation. In the book I authored on Laodicea, William Tyndale ( upon whose earlier work the majority of the KJV was based by Coverdale etc.) is extolled as a great hero for Christ and Erasmus of Rotterdam, who fused together the four earlier Byzantian manuscripts into the Textus Receptus which forms most of the Greek basis for the KJV New Testament is lauded as a great scholar who did more to engender Reformation than Luther."
"Please read fir yourselves, DEBORAH IS. PROVEN LIAR abd be prima faci documented as a liar in any court of law by the rules of Juris Prudence ALTHOUGH I DO NOT SUE other Christians despite the fact that I must question if THIS SLANDERING WITCH AND DAUGHTER OF JEZABEL is one. No liar shall enter the Kingdom of Heaven. I hope THIS PATHOLOGICAL LIAR repents for her own sake."
"Not only is she a liar however, SHE IS A FRAUD AND A CHARLATAN. What makes her AN IGNORAMUS is not that she did not know that midrash was actually in the scriptures, nor that she associated my belief in what is scriptural with the later writings of the rabbis they too called midrash which I in the book openly warn against ( she loves to identify me with what I have actively opposed). These things just add further credence to the fact that SHE IS NOTHING MORE THAN A CONTEMPTABLE DEMONISED LIAR."
"What makes HER AN IGNORAMUS is that she misrepresents herself chronically as knowing things she plainly does not be ause of HER NARCISSISTIC ARROGANCE."
"Anyone wanting a bibliography of conservative Evangelical scholars who affirm the use of scriptural midrash by the New Testament authors which accounts for the way the manner in which the New Testament handles the Old Testament, or woshes to know the difference between the use of midrash in scripture and the later corruptions of the term by the rabbis is invited to visit the Moriel website and other websites examining these issues,"
"Matthew, Mark, Luke and John whom we can the Evangelists authored four gospels in the First century. Hundreds if years later in the fourth and fifth centuries Gnostic herestic authored other fraudulent accounts of Jesus they also called gospels ( eg. The Gopel of Thomas accepted by Islam). Anyone who rejects Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John because centuries later gnostics wrote other so called gospels would have to be an idiot."
"Likewise, while I do not believe we need extra biblical sources to understand God's Word ( and never have contrary to THE FILTHY LIES OF A FILTHY DEMON INSPIRED LIAR NAMED DEBORAH), to reject a perfectly scriptural hermeneutic like Midrash because rabbis came along centuries and wrote rubbish they called midrash would be the same brand if idiocy. DEBORAH IS JUST SUCH AN IDIOT."
"Not knowing who the late Dallas Semi ary President John Walvoord is in regard to pre trib is like not knowing who Luther is regarding the Reformation. SHRE STUPIDLY WRITES that if read from the begining 2 Thessalonians 2 is not about the rapture when Paul states absolutely in the first verse that it is about the 'episunagoge' our gathering to Jesus at His coming (at which point The Day of The Lord' is inaugerated). THIS IS A VERY STUPID WOMAN INDEED. Proverbs warns us that even a know nothing appears wise if they have the common sense to keep their mouth shut when they do not know what they are talking about."
"Why would anyone other than an undiscerning simpleton pay any attention to A SLANDERING WITCH MOTIVATED BY DEMONS? Why would people like Redeemed etc. disregard the Wordif The Word and swallow open lies while claiming to have discernment."
"John Chingford apologised for his attempts to associate me with Laussane which I left in protest over 15 years ago and have warned against and even signed a petition against. True, his efforts to link me via Chuck Smith to Lonnie Frisbee and Kathryn Kuhlman [NOTE ADDED BY JOHN CHINGFORD - NO I DIDN'T!], two figures I never even met but have in print warned against. Wereinfuriating. It did result in MY CALLING HIM A CRACKPOT AND A THUG ETC. [note added by John Chingford - never received an apology for this]"
"But your bloggers overlook the established fact that what he wrote against me is proven wrong and he himself now apologetically admits was wrong."If anyone has real discernment, they will avoid THIS DISGUSTING LIAR. SHE IS INSPIRED BY DEMONS, she us ignorant of the matters she asserts herself about, and above all she is proven to be aCOMPULSIVE PATHOLIGICAL LIAR."
"Those on this website are fellowshipping not in truth or in the Spirit of Jesus, but in ignorance, stupidity, and lies."These are the facts."I only rise to my defense for the sake of any young believers being miled by THIS WICKED DAUGHTER OF DARKNESS and THE DEMONS FROM WHOM SHE UNKNOWINGLY TAKES HER ORDERS."
"I warn you from The Word of God on the basis of the documented facts that DEBORAH IS A SERVANT OF DEMONS. Examine the facts, examine the scriptures and stand accountable before God for your own decisions."In Christ,"Jacob Prasch
Moriel"see http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/11/19/jacob-prasch-twisting-scripture-the-midrash-way/#comment-228590
Earlier on that article Jacob wrote a completely inaccurate rant against me via his associate Chris. I did subsequently write to Jacob but never received an apology. On that article Jacob said:
"John Chingford, whoever he is, is plainly A BABBLING RELIGIOUS CRACKPOT AND A CHEAP MOUTHED HOOLIGAN if not AN OUT AND OUT LIAR."> As with many of his sort of cessationist Calvinists, HE IS A MERE IGNORAMUS AND A THUG."> Neither I or Moriel have had any association with Lausanne in over 15 years in part due to the ecumenical issue."
"Earlier this year I signed a statement opposing its ecumenical direction. CHINGFORD IS A SOWER OF DISCORD who characteristically does not know what he is even talking about. Please ask Chris to tell him I said so."Yes, I have been associated with brothers such as Chuck Smith although I have at times publicly disagreed with them, but I would never associate with AN IGNORANT, SPIRITUALLY DELUDED BUFFOON like John Chingford."Do not hesitate to forward him my comments or post them on his blog ( without my e mail address)."JACOB PRASCH"
found on http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/11/19/jacob-prasch-twisting-scripture-the-midrash-way/#comment-227812
As I say "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH". Until Jacob repents he should not be allowed to be given a platform to preach anymore.
The above are JUST examples of his comments on just two days. If you search the internet you will see many many other similar outbursts.
SUBSEQUENT TO THIS ARTICLE BEING WRITTEN, JACOB ADDED SOMETHING TO THE MORIEL WEBSITE THAT INDICATES THAT HE MAY ACTUALLY HAVE ECUMENICAL TENDENCIES. SOME COMMENTS WERE WRITTEN ABOUT THIS REGARDING HIS ENDORSEMENT OF DOUG HARRIS WHO IS A PROVED ECUMENIST. PLEASE LOOK AT THIS DIRECT LINK TO THE COMMENTS ON THIS:
HTTP://WATCHMANFORJESUS.BLOGSPOT.COM/2012/11/ARE-THESE-WORDSACTIONS-OF-TRUE-MAN-OF.HTML?SHOWCOMMENT=1354445318731#C623655301573976105
HOWEVER, TODAY THE LINK TO MORIEL'S ARTICLE ON DOUG HARRIS http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/announcements/prayer-request/urgent-prayer-request-4
HAS BEEN REMOVED. I COULD FORESEE THAT HAPPENING SO THAT JACOB COULD CALL US LIARS AGAIN. THEREFORE, I TOOK A SCREEN SHOT OF THE ARTICLE BEFORE IT GOT REMOVED AS FOLLOWS (NOTE: YOU WILL NEED TO CLICK ON THE IMAGE TO ENLARGEN IT):
NOTICE IT SAYS that Reachout trust is "AN IMPORTANT APOLOGETICS MINISTRY that evangelises cults. Doug, POSSIBLY THE LEADING UK APOLOGIST" Is that not an endorsement of Doug's ecumenical ministry?"
HTTP://WWW.DISCERNINGTHEWORLD.COM/IMAGES/WPI/MORIEL-PRAYERREQUEST-DOUGHARRIS-READOUTTRUSTUK.PDF
HERE IS ANOTHER SCREENSHOT (TAKEN TODAY 8TH DEC 2012) WHICH SHOWS JACOB'S DISTURBING BELIEF (JUST LIKE THE VIEWS OF CHUCK MISSLER) OF THE EXTRA BIBLICAL TEACHING ABOUT THE RETURNING NEPHILIM IN THE LATTER DAYS. AGAIN, YOU WILL NEED TO CLICK ON THE IMAGE TO ENLARGEN THE PRINT. NOTICE HOW HE ADDS TO THE BIBLE SOMETHING THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY. I QUOTE THE IMPORTANT PART BELOW THE IMAGE.
Taken from: http://www.moriel.org/Teaching/Online/Future History of the Church/Part 3-04 Nephilim.html
Please note the statement made by Jacob in the third paragraph within the image:
"The Nephilim, the fallen ones, are strange characters in Genesis. IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THEY SURVIVED THE FLOOD; whether the Nephilim who were in the land of Canaan when the Jews came to it are a different Nephilim from the ones who were spoken of before the flood is an issue over which theologians are divided; no one is really certain. Some say they are the same ones, some say they're different. If they are the same, IT WOULD MEAN THEY HAD SURVIVED THE DELUGE SOMEHOW. Nonetheless, these things are "the fallen ones", and we're told in Scripture that they copulated with human women."
"So the Lord said, "I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created-and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground-for I regret that I have made them." and again in verse 13:"
"So God said to Noah, "I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them. I am surely going to destroy both them and the earth.
The Bible then goes on to give a very clear account how everyone and everything was destroyed by the flood except those in the ark. The Nephilim WERE NOT in the ark!
How can you trust Jacob to be a man who speaks truth when he adds to the Bible and fabricates stories in order to prove his own theology?
Since all this kicked off, Jacob implied that he might start a CYBER WAR against Deborah. Soon afterwards a wordpress site was set up seeking to defame Deborah and got REALLY personal and nasty Click Here giving personal details even about her husband. We managed to get wordpress to take that site down because it broke the rules of confidentiality. That link is still available but only giving details of why it was taken down.However, within a day or so a new site replaced it (not a blog) Click Here which simply copied most of what was there before and continued on.
It really shows how "sick" these people are and totally without grace or mercy, seeking to destroy rather than to build up. Is this really how born again believers behave?
* LDW NOTE 23RD JUN 2013. I NO LONGER CONTRIBUTE TO DTW BECAUSE I CAN NO LONGER ACCEPT THE UNLOVING AND HARSH WAY PEOPLE ARE TREATED THERE. ON THIS SAME SUBJECT, I AM ACTUALLY VERY GRIEVED BY THE WAY MANY BLOGS TREAT EACH OTHER. FOR THIS REASON I HAVE NOW WRITTEN A NEW ARTICLE ON THE SUBJECT ENTITLED:
"Appealing To Christian Blog Writers and Born Again Believers Everywhere To Demonstrate Love"
HTTP://WWW.WATCHMANFORJESUS.BLOGSPOT.CO.UK/2013/06/APPEALING-TO-CHRISTIAN-BLOG-WRITERS-AND.HTML).
However, in recent years it has come to my attention how Jacob is not just behaving like a bully but is also actually preaching elements of heresy SUCH AS HIS "WORK BASED" SALVATION (ARMINIAN) THEOLOGY, HIS PARTIAL RAPTURE FOR ONLY "WORTHY" BELIEVERS (AGAIN "WORK BASED") AND HIS EXTRA BIBLICAL (ENOCH) TEACHINGS ON THE NEPHILIM (HTTP://WWW.MORIEL.ORG/TEACHING/ONLINE/FUTURE HISTORY OF THE CHURCH/PART 3-04 NEPHILIM.HTML SEE THE BOTTOM OF THIS ARTICLE FOR THE SCREENSHOT IMAGE OF THAT PAGE ESPECIALLY READ THE PART WHERE JACOB ADDS TO THE BIBLE).
AND
more specifically HOW HIS "BEHAVIOUR IS GETTING WORSE AND WORSE". IT IS TIME for true believers to stand up and say with a big collective voice "ENOUGH already!".
Jacob you are bringing the Christian message into disrepute by your disgraceful rants. Repent and humble yourself under the mighty hand of God.
The following things written by Jacob (below) are groundless accusations against Deborah. She hosts a blog which I USED to contribute to * (see notes at the very bottom in blue).
She has presented accuracy with very clear documentary evidence of the things she writes.
Of course she may have (occasionally) used some of her own conclusions, but Jacob's attack is simply because he has been found out and is reacting (over reacting). I have checked out (for myself) what Deborah has written. Much of what she says is definite evidence and been argued rationally, mostly fairly and scripturally. Certainly it is nonsense for Jacob to accuse her of those things below.
Below is what Jacob has written. ARE THESE THE WORDS OF A MAN OF GOD? Especially notice what he said in red/bold writing.
"The invented out "and out lie by "Deborah" that I call such brethren heretics in the book or elsewhere is a vicious and demonstrable lie obviolly embraced by HER LUNATIC FOLLOWERS such as "Redeemed" etc. Sherry B. rather statss vicious things. ONE OF THESE RELIGIOUS FRUITCAKES "calls those "not in agreeement with pre trib, "Ministers of Satan". The point is that it is fully documented that Deborah is lied and spread slander. We are warned such people would come in the last days by Paul in 2 Tim. 3:3 where the term for SUCH LIARS as Deborah is "diaboloi" or DEMONIC PEOPLE. Plainly, anyone who tells such obvious lies aimed to misrepresent the truth to others with an intent to defame IS DEMONIC. The Word of God, not Jacob Prasch, CALLS DEBORAH 'DEMONIC'. "
"Redeemed and the Mawany etc. who believe her on face value without examining the facts themselves which prove she lied are in violation of The Word of God themselves (John 7:51). I will not comment on William Saunders because I know him to be a deceiver who secretly tape records conversations with an aim to distortion abd entrapment and SUCH A LOW LIFE is NOT WORTH THE TIME OF DAY."
"Deborah however DELIGHTS IN LYING. Another of her lies is that I am anti KJV. The article and recording I did in the public domain entitled "the Plastic Bible" only has me expressing hatred fir 'The Message', inclusivist translations, and the 2012 gender inclusive edition of the NIV. The KJV however is endorsed in that transcript and on that recording as a valid translation. In the book I authored on Laodicea, William Tyndale ( upon whose earlier work the majority of the KJV was based by Coverdale etc.) is extolled as a great hero for Christ and Erasmus of Rotterdam, who fused together the four earlier Byzantian manuscripts into the Textus Receptus which forms most of the Greek basis for the KJV New Testament is lauded as a great scholar who did more to engender Reformation than Luther."
"Please read fir yourselves, DEBORAH IS. PROVEN LIAR abd be prima faci documented as a liar in any court of law by the rules of Juris Prudence ALTHOUGH I DO NOT SUE other Christians despite the fact that I must question if THIS SLANDERING WITCH AND DAUGHTER OF JEZABEL is one. No liar shall enter the Kingdom of Heaven. I hope THIS PATHOLOGICAL LIAR repents for her own sake."
"Not only is she a liar however, SHE IS A FRAUD AND A CHARLATAN. What makes her AN IGNORAMUS is not that she did not know that midrash was actually in the scriptures, nor that she associated my belief in what is scriptural with the later writings of the rabbis they too called midrash which I in the book openly warn against ( she loves to identify me with what I have actively opposed). These things just add further credence to the fact that SHE IS NOTHING MORE THAN A CONTEMPTABLE DEMONISED LIAR."
"What makes HER AN IGNORAMUS is that she misrepresents herself chronically as knowing things she plainly does not be ause of HER NARCISSISTIC ARROGANCE."
"Anyone wanting a bibliography of conservative Evangelical scholars who affirm the use of scriptural midrash by the New Testament authors which accounts for the way the manner in which the New Testament handles the Old Testament, or woshes to know the difference between the use of midrash in scripture and the later corruptions of the term by the rabbis is invited to visit the Moriel website and other websites examining these issues,"
"Matthew, Mark, Luke and John whom we can the Evangelists authored four gospels in the First century. Hundreds if years later in the fourth and fifth centuries Gnostic herestic authored other fraudulent accounts of Jesus they also called gospels ( eg. The Gopel of Thomas accepted by Islam). Anyone who rejects Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John because centuries later gnostics wrote other so called gospels would have to be an idiot."
"Likewise, while I do not believe we need extra biblical sources to understand God's Word ( and never have contrary to THE FILTHY LIES OF A FILTHY DEMON INSPIRED LIAR NAMED DEBORAH), to reject a perfectly scriptural hermeneutic like Midrash because rabbis came along centuries and wrote rubbish they called midrash would be the same brand if idiocy. DEBORAH IS JUST SUCH AN IDIOT."
"Not knowing who the late Dallas Semi ary President John Walvoord is in regard to pre trib is like not knowing who Luther is regarding the Reformation. SHRE STUPIDLY WRITES that if read from the begining 2 Thessalonians 2 is not about the rapture when Paul states absolutely in the first verse that it is about the 'episunagoge' our gathering to Jesus at His coming (at which point The Day of The Lord' is inaugerated). THIS IS A VERY STUPID WOMAN INDEED. Proverbs warns us that even a know nothing appears wise if they have the common sense to keep their mouth shut when they do not know what they are talking about."
"Why would anyone other than an undiscerning simpleton pay any attention to A SLANDERING WITCH MOTIVATED BY DEMONS? Why would people like Redeemed etc. disregard the Wordif The Word and swallow open lies while claiming to have discernment."
"John Chingford apologised for his attempts to associate me with Laussane which I left in protest over 15 years ago and have warned against and even signed a petition against. True, his efforts to link me via Chuck Smith to Lonnie Frisbee and Kathryn Kuhlman [NOTE ADDED BY JOHN CHINGFORD - NO I DIDN'T!], two figures I never even met but have in print warned against. Wereinfuriating. It did result in MY CALLING HIM A CRACKPOT AND A THUG ETC. [note added by John Chingford - never received an apology for this]"
"But your bloggers overlook the established fact that what he wrote against me is proven wrong and he himself now apologetically admits was wrong."If anyone has real discernment, they will avoid THIS DISGUSTING LIAR. SHE IS INSPIRED BY DEMONS, she us ignorant of the matters she asserts herself about, and above all she is proven to be aCOMPULSIVE PATHOLIGICAL LIAR."
"Those on this website are fellowshipping not in truth or in the Spirit of Jesus, but in ignorance, stupidity, and lies."These are the facts."I only rise to my defense for the sake of any young believers being miled by THIS WICKED DAUGHTER OF DARKNESS and THE DEMONS FROM WHOM SHE UNKNOWINGLY TAKES HER ORDERS."
"I warn you from The Word of God on the basis of the documented facts that DEBORAH IS A SERVANT OF DEMONS. Examine the facts, examine the scriptures and stand accountable before God for your own decisions."In Christ,"Jacob Prasch
Moriel"see http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/11/19/jacob-prasch-twisting-scripture-the-midrash-way/#comment-228590
Earlier on that article Jacob wrote a completely inaccurate rant against me via his associate Chris. I did subsequently write to Jacob but never received an apology. On that article Jacob said:
"John Chingford, whoever he is, is plainly A BABBLING RELIGIOUS CRACKPOT AND A CHEAP MOUTHED HOOLIGAN if not AN OUT AND OUT LIAR."> As with many of his sort of cessationist Calvinists, HE IS A MERE IGNORAMUS AND A THUG."> Neither I or Moriel have had any association with Lausanne in over 15 years in part due to the ecumenical issue."
"Earlier this year I signed a statement opposing its ecumenical direction. CHINGFORD IS A SOWER OF DISCORD who characteristically does not know what he is even talking about. Please ask Chris to tell him I said so."Yes, I have been associated with brothers such as Chuck Smith although I have at times publicly disagreed with them, but I would never associate with AN IGNORANT, SPIRITUALLY DELUDED BUFFOON like John Chingford."Do not hesitate to forward him my comments or post them on his blog ( without my e mail address)."JACOB PRASCH"
found on http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/11/19/jacob-prasch-twisting-scripture-the-midrash-way/#comment-227812
As I say "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH". Until Jacob repents he should not be allowed to be given a platform to preach anymore.
The above are JUST examples of his comments on just two days. If you search the internet you will see many many other similar outbursts.
EDITED 3RD DEC 2012
SUBSEQUENT TO THIS ARTICLE BEING WRITTEN, JACOB ADDED SOMETHING TO THE MORIEL WEBSITE THAT INDICATES THAT HE MAY ACTUALLY HAVE ECUMENICAL TENDENCIES. SOME COMMENTS WERE WRITTEN ABOUT THIS REGARDING HIS ENDORSEMENT OF DOUG HARRIS WHO IS A PROVED ECUMENIST. PLEASE LOOK AT THIS DIRECT LINK TO THE COMMENTS ON THIS:
HTTP://WATCHMANFORJESUS.BLOGSPOT.COM/2012/11/ARE-THESE-WORDSACTIONS-OF-TRUE-MAN-OF.HTML?SHOWCOMMENT=1354445318731#C623655301573976105
HOWEVER, TODAY THE LINK TO MORIEL'S ARTICLE ON DOUG HARRIS http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/announcements/prayer-request/urgent-prayer-request-4
HAS BEEN REMOVED. I COULD FORESEE THAT HAPPENING SO THAT JACOB COULD CALL US LIARS AGAIN. THEREFORE, I TOOK A SCREEN SHOT OF THE ARTICLE BEFORE IT GOT REMOVED AS FOLLOWS (NOTE: YOU WILL NEED TO CLICK ON THE IMAGE TO ENLARGEN IT):
NOTICE IT SAYS that Reachout trust is "AN IMPORTANT APOLOGETICS MINISTRY that evangelises cults. Doug, POSSIBLY THE LEADING UK APOLOGIST" Is that not an endorsement of Doug's ecumenical ministry?"
THE ABOVE IMAGE CAN ALSO BE FOUND ON:
HTTP://WWW.DISCERNINGTHEWORLD.COM/IMAGES/WPI/MORIEL-PRAYERREQUEST-DOUGHARRIS-READOUTTRUSTUK.PDF
HERE IS ANOTHER SCREENSHOT (TAKEN TODAY 8TH DEC 2012) WHICH SHOWS JACOB'S DISTURBING BELIEF (JUST LIKE THE VIEWS OF CHUCK MISSLER) OF THE EXTRA BIBLICAL TEACHING ABOUT THE RETURNING NEPHILIM IN THE LATTER DAYS. AGAIN, YOU WILL NEED TO CLICK ON THE IMAGE TO ENLARGEN THE PRINT. NOTICE HOW HE ADDS TO THE BIBLE SOMETHING THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY. I QUOTE THE IMPORTANT PART BELOW THE IMAGE.
Taken from: http://www.moriel.org/Teaching/Online/Future History of the Church/Part 3-04 Nephilim.html
Please note the statement made by Jacob in the third paragraph within the image:
"The Nephilim, the fallen ones, are strange characters in Genesis. IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THEY SURVIVED THE FLOOD; whether the Nephilim who were in the land of Canaan when the Jews came to it are a different Nephilim from the ones who were spoken of before the flood is an issue over which theologians are divided; no one is really certain. Some say they are the same ones, some say they're different. If they are the same, IT WOULD MEAN THEY HAD SURVIVED THE DELUGE SOMEHOW. Nonetheless, these things are "the fallen ones", and we're told in Scripture that they copulated with human women."
This is what the BIBLE (not Jacob) says in Gen 6:7:
"So the Lord said, "I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created-and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground-for I regret that I have made them." and again in verse 13:"
"So God said to Noah, "I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them. I am surely going to destroy both them and the earth.
The Bible then goes on to give a very clear account how everyone and everything was destroyed by the flood except those in the ark. The Nephilim WERE NOT in the ark!
How can you trust Jacob to be a man who speaks truth when he adds to the Bible and fabricates stories in order to prove his own theology?
EDITED 21 FEB 2013
Since all this kicked off, Jacob implied that he might start a CYBER WAR against Deborah. Soon afterwards a wordpress site was set up seeking to defame Deborah and got REALLY personal and nasty Click Here giving personal details even about her husband. We managed to get wordpress to take that site down because it broke the rules of confidentiality. That link is still available but only giving details of why it was taken down.However, within a day or so a new site replaced it (not a blog) Click Here which simply copied most of what was there before and continued on.
It really shows how "sick" these people are and totally without grace or mercy, seeking to destroy rather than to build up. Is this really how born again believers behave?
* LDW NOTE 23RD JUN 2013. I NO LONGER CONTRIBUTE TO DTW BECAUSE I CAN NO LONGER ACCEPT THE UNLOVING AND HARSH WAY PEOPLE ARE TREATED THERE. ON THIS SAME SUBJECT, I AM ACTUALLY VERY GRIEVED BY THE WAY MANY BLOGS TREAT EACH OTHER. FOR THIS REASON I HAVE NOW WRITTEN A NEW ARTICLE ON THE SUBJECT ENTITLED:
"Appealing To Christian Blog Writers and Born Again Believers Everywhere To Demonstrate Love"
PLEASE CLICK HERE TO READ IT:
HTTP://WWW.WATCHMANFORJESUS.BLOGSPOT.CO.UK/2013/06/APPEALING-TO-CHRISTIAN-BLOG-WRITERS-AND.HTML).
